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Attic truss, also known as a room-in-attic truss are a way to create a living space without the need to add a full second story to a home. These factory-built roof systems simplify a roof buildout and are engineered to meet the structural requirements of your local codes and conditions. I commonly see them used for bonus rooms over garages and integrated into slab-on-grade homes to add living space without needing to add to the height of the building.
There are a few ways to insulate and air seal these roofs. Currently, the most common method in my market is to use closed cell spray foam to insulate the underside of the roof sheathing from the eave to the peak. Some contractors will use some sort of chute to try to ventilate, others will create an unvented roof assembly (hot roof).
Another option is to use a batt or blown insulation and insulate the flat portion at the peak of the truss, down the short, sloped wall to the knee wall. Anytime fibrous insulation follows the pitch of a roof, ventilation is required. The insulation then works across the ceiling at the lower-level ceiling of the home. Achieving a good level of air tightness when using the conditioned space floor, walls and ceiling of the attic truss is difficult, especially the transition where the knee wall meets the attic floor/lower-level ceiling.
Recently I’ve had a rash of building investigations where homes with this type of roof design are having issues in my cold and snowy climate. All the recent issues used closed cell spray foam installed at the roof sheathing. All were ventilated roof designs with the vent starting at the eave and ending at the roof peak.
The first problem is the short, sloped wall that connects the knee wall to the flat ceiling. Most truss designs use either a 2×6 or 2×8 for the top rafter cord. After the ventilation space is created, there is only room for 4-6 inches of closed cell foam, achieving an R-value of between R-28 to R-42 if the space is completely filled. Spray foam insulation contractors do not want to remove closed cell spray foam that has expanded beyond any framing member, so, often the space is not filled completely, resulting in lower R-values. This lower R-value and thermal bridge is seen in the photos below.
I’ve found a couple reasons for this higher heat loss, the first is closed cell spray foam that has separated from the truss cord, creating a pathway for conditioned air to move along side the truss and into the ventilation cavity and/or roof sheathing, as shown in the thermal image.
The second reason is often the truss design includes girder trusses where two or more of the roof trusses have been mated together for a structural purpose. The metal gang plates that are installed at the factory often keep the trusses slightly spaced, creating a pathway for warm, conditioned air to move to the roof sheathing. These photos show this condition.
The upper photo shows the gap created by two attic trusses being fastened together for structural reasons. This photo was taken from the outside after a portion of the roof material and sheathing had been removed. You can see some moisture on the foam that was installed for the ventilation chute (upper left side of the photo). The lower photo is that same truss on the interior. You can see where the insulation contractor has tried to seal the gap between the trusses, this additional insulation and air sealing was done as a repair after the snow melt was discovered on the roof after the homes first winter.
Another issue with this roof design is the thermal bridge that occurs between the roof sheathing and top rafter cord when installing closed cell spray foam at the roof sheathing. What’s common in my market is closed cell spray foam being applied to encase the top cord, but the level of insulation isn’t sufficient to eliminate the thermal bridge. When you get to the sloped wall portion that connects the knee wall to the flat ceiling, there is no insulation covering the truss, which results in even more heat loss to through the roof truss.
The condition is even worse if trying to use a fibrous insulation and a membrane to create an air barrier (a method I see in older homes using an attic truss). This insulation strategy results in the top cord having no insulation on the bottom side of the cord to reduce the thermal bridge for the length of the cord.
The Fix.
I’ve had conversations with several different contractors who are experiencing these conditions on how to remedy the issue. Several have brought up sealing the girder truss using a sealant before the truss is assembled and/or set. Another suggestion is to increase the size of the ventilation space. This may help some, but, in my opinion, there is a better way, the addition of continuous insulation above the roof sheathing.
This will result in an unvented roof assembly, that for the most part, will be thermally broken from the attic truss. There are a few requirements for this assembly to work correctly. The structural layer of roof sheathing needs to be airtight. This can be accomplished by using the products in the illustration (Zip sheathing and tape) or applying an airtight membrane before the addition eave framing and the rigid insulation. (This design results in the exterior wall and roof air seal being continuous, often called monopoly framing.) The second requirement is that the ratio of interior insulation to exterior rigid insulation be followed. The ratio is to ensure the structural roof sheathing stays above the temperature where condensation may form.
If you want to torture yourself, read the code language in the International Residential Code, Chapter 8, Roof Ventilation, specifically R806.5. Two better places to learn more about this subject is in an article by Dr. Joe Lstiburek: BSI-100: Hybrid Assemblies | buildingscience.com
Or an article by Allison Bailes III, PhD: The Ratio Rule for Hybrid Roof Insulation – GreenBuildingAdvisor
My suggestion for reducing the issues with attic trusses is to insulate as shown in the Fine Homebuilding illustration above. For my market, climate zone 7, and when using the 2021 IRC energy code and Table 806.5, we will need a total of R-60 roof insulation with R-36 being above the structural roof sheathing (vapor impermeable rigid insulation with offset seams) and R-24 below. Because of the difficulties in insulating these factory-built trusses on an angle, I would use an open cell spray foam (6”-7” for climate zone 7) below the roof sheathing. The top cord of the attic truss should be specified as 2×8 to allow enough insulation when a short, sloped ceiling connects the knee wall to the flat section of attic. If you do not want to use the open cell spray foam, another option would be to install all R-60 above the sheathing.
Section R806.5 has a few other rules that need to be followed.
- The unvented attic space needs to be completely inside the thermal envelope.
- There cannot be a class I vapor retarder (polyethylene sheeting) either on the ceiling side (attic floor) or on the ceiling side of the unvented attic assembly.
- Climate zones 5,6,7, and 8 require any air impermeable insulation required to be or have a class II vapor retarder in direct contact with the underside of the insulation. It cannot simply be a friction fit fibrous insulation batt that does not achieve a Class II vapor retarder.
This section of code has several other requirements and, is where information pertaining to vapor diffusion ports is found. Refer to section 806.5 for more information.
I’ve probably had more than a dozen of these building investigations over the past two years. Often the condition presents as water dripping from the insulated roof during the winter months while the home is under construction. Other times it is the snow melt and ice dams that form after the home is completed. A few of these investigations have included water damage in a completed, new home. Repairs at that time can include removal of a portion of the roof from the exterior. The lucky contractors find and seal the issues from the interior, neither never fully cure the snow melt patterns that form on the roof. Changing the insulation strategy is really the only way to solve the problem.
I found this article timely, having just finished framing, what will be a heated garage with the “bonus” room trusses as described. I plan to insulate all the exterior surfaces only assuming the in-floor heat will then also warm the bonus room above. I have installed my own air chutes constructed with R-5 rigid insulation, creating a 2″ clear space below the roof sheathing (cold roof) within the 2×8 top cord of the trusses. My thought was to go with “flash & batt” insulation against the interior side of the air chutes consisting of 1″ close cell spray foam, creating the vapor retarder, and R-15 mineral wool batt insulation (total R-27) at the roof. The 2×6 exterior walls will be insulated with R-23 mineral wool with a class II vapor retarded on the interior.
Any thoughts?
Hi Kendrick,
There is a really good article in a recent addition of Fine HomeBuilding magazine (December 2023/January 2024) about the many code requirements for both attached and detached garages. https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2023/11/22/code-guidelines-for-garages
Depending on what the bonus room’s purpose is, you may want to consider at least preparing for some sort of heat other than the heat source in the lower level (pull a wire for an electric baseboard heater or two, don’t plan to heat the space using that strategy if you need to heat continuously, electricity on the general service rate is too expensive). If the room is only used for “cold” storage and you are looking to maintain around the freezing mark during cold weather, your plans will work fine. If your plan is to maintain a higher temperature, the building will be more expensive to operate, and you will probably have ice dam issues if you use your current ceiling insulation strategy. My home only has R-24 for the roof insulation, I get some pretty big ice dams if I don’t remove roof snow in a timely manner.
If the space is planned as a guest overflow sleeping area, you’ll want to do your best to effectively separate the garage space from the “living” space, much like we are required to do if the garage were attached to a home.
Another consideration is how to handle any moisture that might be created from snow melting off any vehicles parked in the heated space. I’ve been in unheated garages with frost on windows, covering the garage door, and even causing the doorknob on the exterior door to become completely full of frost and ice. An increase in temperature of the garage space causes the indoor air to be able to hold even more water vapor. You may want to consider dehumidification or balanced or exhaust ventilation strategy for humidity control.
Randy
Enjoyed this article. One of my biggest questions as a I ponder a future exterior remodel is what to do with one section of my house that is cathedral style roof. I’m in Minnesota and this section of the house is very poorly insulated. The only insulation is bats between the roof beams. Thus, not only do I have poor R-value, I have tons of thermal bridging. I’d like to go with an exterior insulation hot roof set-up but not sure if it is even possible without tearing off the roof decking to remove the fiberglass bats and eliminate the current vented design.
Hi Ted,
The first problem with insulating above the structural roof is the cathedral ceiling ventilation. You will need to remove the roof sheathing from the exterior, remove and seal the vent and adjust or add insulation so that it is in direct contact with the roof sheathing before any other work can begin. Another option would be to break the thermal bridge from the interior. This can work if you have enough ceiling height. It will also be dependent on any lighting in the ceiling. If I were trying to improve the ceiling from the interior, what I would do is remove any existing interior ceiling finish, make any electrical changes necessary, and then improve the ceiling air seal. 6 mil poly will work for this application, but it is imperative it is well detailed and sealed. I would then add the insulation, this could EPS, XPS, polyiso or rigid mineral wool. I would add enough insulation to get to at least an R-50. Then strap the ceiling using 1x or 2x lumber and add your interior finish. As a bonus, I could have removed the electrical in the original ceiling all together and re-wire using a 2x strapping detail. This way all the ceiling electrical is inside the envelope.
These cathedral ceilings are always a tough detail. Hope this helps.
Randy
Thanks Randy. I appreciate the detailed reply. I also saved the article you referenced in Fine Home Building. That looks like an awesome template/plan that could be used on my home. And after reading that article and your response above, now I know 100% that the decking has to come off. My home was built in 1976 and has some kind of fitted boards instead of sheathing. Thanks again for your reply!
Great option for those with an unlimited budget, the simple fix is to drop the ceiling on the sloped wall section of the attic truss to allow enough spray foam insulation to cover the top cord of the truss to stop the thermal bridging. I too live here in the great north and use this truss in many of my designs and this is the best method we have found to deal with this problem spot. I actually have the truss company put the nailer in for us and it works great.
Thanks for the comment, Ryan.
Have you seen any issues with the girder trusses? The amount of moisture I saw between the ccsf and roof deck was worrisome. The home featured in the article had a water leak from that location that created some damage.
Randy
Ryan Welvang, I appreciate the cost saving approach. Do you have a photo, or photos, to illustrate your method? Thanks!